I'm thinking the same thing.
I'm not suggesting anything close to Poo or Doo numbers, but I predict in comparison to '24 sales Cat will have the highest growth percentage.
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I'm not suggesting anything close to Poo or Doo numbers, but I predict in comparison to '24 sales Cat will have the highest growth percentage.
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16k is what the 600 cost with ****ty shocks. I must just get terrible deals lol. Might as well order one , can allways back out and sell the deposit.
Your 600 is almost wore out.
It seems like i seen someone get a brand new 23 pro boost holdover for 17. I blew way by 20k on a 24 es 9r with 325 track. Awesome sled but over priced. Should be halfway between a boost and 850 imo. I'm guessing the guage will add 1200 like poo and doo. That plus 23 price plus another grand is my guess.
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At $18-19k for Mountain Cat with premium shocks and guage, I'm in. You still have to add freight and taxes. Any more and I'll just wait for a holdover the next year like I did this year with my 23 9R (16k).
My dealer basically told me the same thing that there would be 2 rounds of snow checks. With the first ones being delivered in Aug or Sept and the second being in Nov or Dec all estimates. Pricing will be interesting currently a 165- 800 MC ES with the premium gauge is 22,300 CAD. The doo expert with the big gauge 21,900 same as the Pol 850 and the 9 R is 26,200 all 165 tracks with ES or shot ,big gauge and premium shocks. All prices are CAD
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I don’t think about money out of context .
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On second thought, I wish they offered the Mountain Cat WITHOUT the premium gauge. They don't all work with the other manufacturers, likely be the only one in the group who has one. Personally think the current guage on my Alpha has plenty of useful info, mostly coolant and EGT Temps.
Plus, you can always add it later it you want. Too much extra money for something that won't get the use IMO.
Plus, you can always add it later it you want. Too much extra money for something that won't get the use IMO.
The last time I snow checked a sled was March 2011 at a spring snow show (2012 proclimb fox shocks non es 162, I still have it) 11,800.00, I don’t remember the MSRP. If they want 20 grand for the new equivalent sled that’s $631.00 yearly increase (13 years). I agree with koolaid, I’d skip the gauge, it drives up the cost. Most of the tech I wouldn’t use anyway. I’m baffled that people are so enamored with tech over performance. I’d take the premium shocks and get way more use out of them. If it’s true someone bought a 23 pro boost holdover for 17 that‘s a very good deal. My dealer did say he is ordering in season sleds this year he hasn’t been able to do that in a few years might help with the price next spring.
My last snow check was an '01....damn I'm getting old! LOL
The '23 boosts for $17k is a real deal, there are plenty of them too so it's not a bait and switch thing.
I asked this in another thread and nobody had the answer. Does the Garmin G8 disply altitude?
My last snowcheck was a 2020 165 mountain cat es and was right around $14k otd. It’s gross what they, and everything else, cost these days. As to the cheap boosts, there’s some dealer in Colorado that is advertising them for like $16,999 all over Facebook. Think they said at the beginning of the season they were sitting on like 200 holdovers. I’d consider a boost/9r if I didn’t have a serious trust issue with Polaris engines.
In 22, my buddy and I had a boost and my wife had a new 850 with 7s. Even though factory boost was awesome itold them the coolest thing was the buddy tracking as dumb as that sounds. The next year i had a lynx and met some friends, from north dakota, in island park. He was the only one with the guage. He told me it's just a guage when your the only one. The 7s was a game changer for my wife. She was always worried about getting too far away and not being able to find us. A trip in alpine, a few headed of the mountain early. I could see her following a buddy when i was looking for her. She realized we weren't leaving and headed back up the mountain to find us. She would have never done that without the guage and i would have had to go get her or she would have left early with them. That is priceless. Completely took all the worry out for her. I will chance the guage and i may order her one after i ride my daughter's sled. My problem is i like trying new stuff so i never stick with anything. Brand loyalty is silly. I started on cat but that means nothing to me. They owe me. I don't owe them anything. I'm the customer.
I also did some checking and it does have an altimeter.
Last sled I snowchecked was my 2014 Pro-lite. Was $18,000 then. If the 858 is as good as it has been overall it will be worth it.
Last cat i snowchecked was 2020 hardcore 154 for $12000 with 1 year of warranty. Add 1200 for a guage and 1200 for e start and 165 and I'll throw them another 1000. That 858 better not be over 15400.
I am a 154 guy but liked my 19 165 better.
I am a 154 guy but liked my 19 165 better.
Does that $12K seems cheap. Does it represent MSRP or negotiated selling price?
I didn't negotiate anything. That was the price i got. Yes, i think my wife's 2020 expert, that she hated, was$15000.
I also assumed it was that cheap because I didn't get any warranty
Who knows when I'll be in a position to buy a new sled, but I'll definitely want to get some time on the 858 Catalyst next season, and if I like the way it rides and the teething issues are minimal, I could see paying $20k. Hopefully if there are issues, they're minor; I could take one hit if it's not too hard to fix or too high-probability of failure, like a few of Poos issues I could mention, but too much and even $16k wouldn't be interesting to me. Basically, I'm willing to pay a little more if it means getting something I can count on delivering at least a couple trouble-free seasons over the cheapest new sled I can get.
On the gauge and tracking issue, I wonder what it'd take to make a universal transmitter. That'd be a solution, and I'm sure people would pay good money for it. I'm not sure what kind of money it'd take, but hopefully it'd be cheaper than buying a whole different gauge (like TrailTech). Because of the lack of interoperability, I'm not sure I'd be interested in paying more for the gauge; depends on how much. But if the manufacturers decide to keep their tracking setups on different systems, a lot of people are going to stick with the basic gauge and buy a TrailTech even if they'd like the 7S or G8. If somebody decides to make their fancy gauge setup work with the rest, it'd be a big selling point. What I'm looking for (in addition to good reliability) is the 858, a decent basic gauge (even if it's kind of rudimentary, like my Pro), and a decent, rebuildable shock package. I don't need e-start, the fancy gauge, or a bunch of decals and graphics, but all too often they want you to buy stuff you don't need to get the stuff you do.
On the gauge and tracking issue, I wonder what it'd take to make a universal transmitter. That'd be a solution, and I'm sure people would pay good money for it. I'm not sure what kind of money it'd take, but hopefully it'd be cheaper than buying a whole different gauge (like TrailTech). Because of the lack of interoperability, I'm not sure I'd be interested in paying more for the gauge; depends on how much. But if the manufacturers decide to keep their tracking setups on different systems, a lot of people are going to stick with the basic gauge and buy a TrailTech even if they'd like the 7S or G8. If somebody decides to make their fancy gauge setup work with the rest, it'd be a big selling point. What I'm looking for (in addition to good reliability) is the 858, a decent basic gauge (even if it's kind of rudimentary, like my Pro), and a decent, rebuildable shock package. I don't need e-start, the fancy gauge, or a bunch of decals and graphics, but all too often they want you to buy stuff you don't need to get the stuff you do.
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