Amnesty

[swampwater]

Try to post this again, did last night but seems to have disappeared. If your Rep is on this list you need to badger them and let them know why they were given a majority in last election, and it wasn't to follow the democratic line. Tell them to grow a couple and do what they were sent their to do or they will be replaced!

fund Obama’s illegal amnesty, so we can remember exactly who in the GOP betrayed us when everyone is complaining about the consequences of amnesty over the next year or twBizPac Review put together a list of the 74 other Republicans who joined Boehner to vote to o.
1. Dan Benishek – Michigan
2. Mike Bishop – Michigan
3. John Boehner – Ohio
4. Mike Bost – Illinois
5. Susan Brooks – Indiana
6. Vern Buchanan – Florida
7. Ken Calvert – California
8. John Carter – Texas
9. Mike Coffman – Colorado
10. Tom Cole – Oklahoma
11. Chris Collins – New York
12. Barbara Comstock – Virginia
13. Ryan Costello – Pennsylvania
14. Carlos Curbelo – Florida
15. Rodney Davis – Illinois
16. Jeff Denham – California
17. Charles Dent – Pennsylvania
18. Mario Diaz-Balart – Florida
19. Bob Dold – Illinois
20. Renee Ellmers – North Carolina
21. Tom Emmer – Minnesota
22. Michael Fitzpatrick – Pennsylvania
23. Rodney Frelinghuysen – New Jersey
24. Chris Gibson – New York
25. Kay Granger – Texas
26. Frank Guinta – New Hampshire
27. Richard Hanna – New York
28. Cresent Hardy – Nevada
29. Joe Heck – Nevada
30. Will Hurd – Texas
31. David Jolly – Florida
32. John Katko – New York
33. Peter King – New York
34. Adam Kinzinger – Illinois
35. John Kline – Minnesota
36. Steve Knight – California
37. Leonard Lance – New Jersey
38. Frank LoBiondo – New Jersey
39. Tom MacArthur – New Jersey
40. Kevin McCarthy – California
41. Michael McCaul – Texas
42. Patrick McHenry – North Carolina
43. Cathy McMorris Rogers – Washington
44. Martha McSally – Arizona
45. Pat Meehan – Pennsylvania
46. Candice Miller – Michigan
47. John Moolenaar – Michigan
48. Tim Murphy – Pennsylvania
49. Kristi Noem – South Dakota
50. Devin Nunes – California
51. Erick Paulsen – Minnesota
52. Robert Pittenger – North Carolina
53. Joseph Pitts – Pennsylvania
54. Bruce Poliquin – Maine
55. David Reichert – Washington
56. Harold Rogers – Kentucky
57. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen – Florida
58. Ed Royce – California
59. Paul Ryan – Wisconsin
60. Steve Scalise – Louisiana
61. Aaron Schock – Illinois
62. John Shimkus – Illinois
63. Mike Simpson – Idaho
64. Chris Smith – New Jersey
65. Elise Stefanik – New York
66. Steve Stivers – Ohio
67. Glenn Thompson – Pennsylvania
68. Pat Tiberi – Ohio
69. Dave Trott – Michigan
70. Michael Turner – Ohio
71. Fred Upton – Michigan
72. David Valadao – California
73. Greg Walden – Oregon
74. Mimi Walters – California
75. Todd Young – Indiana
Is your representative on this list of shame? If so, you may want to let them know, via email, letter, phone call or friendly visit to their office, that you in no way, shape or form support their decision to fund Obama’s unilateral, unconstitutional, and illegal amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants.

 

[bholmlate]

so we can remember exactly who in the GOP betrayed us when everyone is complaining about the consequences of amnesty
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What are the consequences that are so frightening? I don't want to hear talking points either.

 

[Mafesto]

As a South Dakotan I am ashamed to See Kristi Noem's name on there.:face-icon-small-sad

 

[swampwater]

Do your own homework low information libtard!

What are the consequences that are so frightening? I don't want to hear talking points either.

 

[bholmlate]

resorting to name calling already WOW just because you cant answer a simple question. Perfect!!!!. Already did my own homework which is why i asked the question in the first place. Thank you for giving me the answer that i was expecting.

 

[James T Kirk]

What are the consequences that are so frightening? I don't want to hear talking points either.

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0377744/

 

[snowdog484]

Disappointed also to see Kline doesn't have a backbone.

 

[swampwater]

resorting to name calling already WOW just because you cant answer a simple question. Perfect!!!!. Already did my own homework which is why i asked the question in the first place. Thank you for giving me the answer that i was expecting.

I don’t name call I state facts! If you don’t like the word libtard which would you like, socialist, Marxist etc?

I suppose you are going to deny being liberal and in favor of OB’s unconstitutional amnesty program and the congress’s validation of his acts. The question you offered and it’s tenor clearly show your beliefs.

The fact that the usurper in chief continues to by pass congress on this and other issues and is not stopped by the congress via their power of the purse demonstrates clearly the government our founders gave us, a government of laws and not of men, has clearly been destroyed is a great consequence, which I will admit is not unique to OB, but he is the latest and greatest perpetrator. Do you not believe that is a frightening consequence?

Anyone who supports or validates the unconstitutional practice of taking the life energy of the hard working American taxpayer, his children and grandchildren, to give to lawbreakers who not only broke the law entering this country actually break the law by earning income in this country and not paying their fair share is a Marxist. Is that not frightening?

The IRS has issued a statement that the newly amnestied illegals will get SS numbers and file income taxes going back at least 3 years and since they will be have access to the earned income tax credits they can get tax subsidy payments going back 3 years which will cost the American taxpayer billions even though they never paid in. Isn’t that a consequence. And they are exempted from OB care so they will not be assessed any fines but will still be able to get their medical care free at emergency rooms as they have been getting for years, again a drain on legal Americans who will be forced to pay the bills.

According to a detailed analysis by the Heritage Foundation, each illegal immigrant costs our country $24,000 a year. But, on average, each pays $10,000 in taxes, so it’s reasonable to say that each illegal really adds $14,000 a year to our country’s debt burden.

Now multiply that $14,000 by the 5 million illegal immigrants we might grant amnesty, and we’re out a mere $70 billion. That’s billion, with a B.
Moving along, let’s recall that the average full-time worker in this country earns about $50,000 a year and pays 25 percent—$12,500— in income taxes.

So how many new jobs do we need to create to offset the $70 billion we’ll have to pay if the president grants amnesty to 5 million illegal immigrants? Divide 70 billion by 12,500 and you get… 5.6 million new full-time jobs. Pretty frightening consequences to me!

Illegal immigration actually costs U.S. taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state and local level. The bulk of the costs — some $84 billion — are absorbed by state and local governments.

The annual outlay that illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers is an average amount per native-headed household of $1,117. The fiscal impact per household varies considerably because the greatest share of the burden falls on state and local taxpayers whose burden depends on the size of the illegal alien population in that locality Education for the children of illegal aliens constitutes the single largest cost to taxpayers, at an annual price tag of nearly $52 billion. Nearly all of those costs are absorbed by state and local governments.

Are these the talking points you allude to, go back and do some real homework.

 

[swampwater]

More taxpayer money!


A memo sent from the Congressional Research Service to the Senate Judiciary Committee indicates that illegal immigrants will be able to tap into America’s Social Security system and receive payments, according to the terms of President Obama’s amnesty plan.

The memo also says illegals, in some cases, would also be given credit for time they’ve been working in the United States illegally.

The Daily Caller first obtained a copy of the memo and reported its contents.

It read, in part: “Under the November 20, 2014, policy memorandum, foreign nationals who receive deferred action status may be eligible for work authorization. As a result, a foreign national who receives deferred action status may be able to have all of his or her Social Security-covered earnings count toward qualifying for a Social Security benefit (all earnings from authorized and unauthorized work).”

The benefits that these illegal immigrants will be able to receive include retirement, disability and survivor, news site reported.

The Republican aide who provided the memo to The Daily Caller said “the executive amnesty onion has just started being peeled,” and that the nation’s Social Security system faces a deep difficulty.

“These benefits programs are in dire trouble,” the aide reportedly said. “They need to be preserved for legal immigrants and American citizens first and foremost.”

The White House announced Obama’s executive amnesty action in November 2014, but then, officials said illegals would not be eligible for Social Security. A month later, the White House released another statement, saying some in fact could be eligible, the news outlet reported.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/thanks-obama-illegals-eligible-for-social-security/#8vk18j6sL6Y1zwD6.99

 

[bholmlate]

you sure schooled me didn't you i feel so much smarter thank you

 

[Mafesto]

you sure schooled me didn't you

Yes, he did.

 

[bholmlate]

Now i have been educated and fully aware of how closed minded some people are on the conservative side of things,. I feel i am a better person for it

interesting read.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/11/25/conservative-media-cite-widely-discredited-rese/201709

 

[swampwater]

Sorry I don't consider Goerge Sorros funded liberal mouthpieces as serious journalism.

Another heavyweight operative for the leftist world of so-called journalism is Angelo Carusone, vice president of the pro-Obama propaganda mouthpiece “Media Matters.” Also on the list from Media Matters is “Deputy Outreach Director” Rebecca Lenn. Funded by billionaire extremist George Soros, the fringe group, which styles itself a media “watchdog,” has been exposed coordinating its attacks on journalists with officials in the current administration. Establishment media outlets regularly pick up its attack pieces, despite the fact that so many of its propaganda screeds have been exposed as wildly inaccurate. Just last week, the outfit was lambasted by scientists for getting “every fact wrong” in a ham-handed, factually challenged attack on climate experts who question

Now i have been educated and fully aware of how closed minded some people are on the conservative side of things,. I feel i am a better person for it

interesting read.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/11/25/conservative-media-cite-widely-discredited-rese/201709

 

[bholmlate]

See above i rest my case. Carry on!!

 

[swampwater]

What usually happens when a liberal is faced with facts!

See above i rest my case. Carry on!!

 

[James T Kirk]

Know why it costs twice as much to build a house in Canada vs the states? No Mexicans up here.

I can't understand why all the repubs down there are so excited to have to pay $50/hr for someone to sand drywall.

 

[bholmlate]

James you forget that the people of the far right hire undocumneted workers to keep thelr lawns mowed, houses cleaned and more importantly fruits and vegetables on the table. But heaven forbid that the undocumented get anything out of the deal. That is JUST WRONG!!!


(What usually happens when a liberal is faced with facts!)

That would presume there were facts discussed now wouldn't it?? OH!!! sorry I forgot that the Heritage Foundation has won many awards for their unbiased bi-partisan reporting of the facts what a joke dude!!!!!

 

[swampwater]

I guess you failed to read my posts thoroughly, you missed some sources and it isn't just the heritage foundation, or do you think these sources are part of the right wing conspiracy?

memo sent from the Congressional Research Service to the Senate Judiciary Committee indicates that illegal immigrants will be able to tap into America’s Social Security system and receive payments, according to the terms of President Obama’s amnesty plan.

The IRS has issued a statement that the newly amnestied illegals will get SS numbers and file income taxes going back at least 3 years and since they will be have access to the earned income tax credits they can get tax subsidy payments going back 3 years

Keep feeding at Soros' trough or do some open minded research!

James you forget that the people of the far right hire undocumneted workers to keep thelr lawns mowed, houses cleaned and more importantly fruits and vegetables on the table. But heaven forbid that the undocumented get anything out of the deal. That is JUST WRONG!!!


(What usually happens when a liberal is faced with facts!)

That would presume there were facts discussed now wouldn't it?? OH!!! sorry I forgot that the Heritage Foundation has won many awards for their unbiased bi-partisan reporting of the facts what a joke dude!!!!!

 

[swampwater]

A little more from your good buddy George Soros!

You may not be aware the FCC passed new regulations on the Internet the end of last month. You probably have no idea what those regulations are. And that’s the way the FCC commissioner wanted it.
Under the innocuous-sounding “net neutrality,” the liberal majority, 5-person commission quietly passed sweeping regulations of the Internet designed to turn it into a government-regulated commodity.
Only today was the 400-page document released publicly, and now we know why it had to be kept secret. The real agenda becomes clear when you understand who was pushing so hard for the regulations.
Free Press, an activist group heavily funded by George Soros was instrumental in pushing the FCC to regulate the Internet, and in fact is cited 46 times in the document regarding its arguments supporting more regulation.
But there’s nothing really “free” about the real intentions of Free Press.
As the Daily Caller reports, “one of Free Press’ co-founders, Robert McChesney, a communications professor at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, has not been shy about his desire to see the Internet regulated heavily.”
“But Internet regulation appears to be only part of McChesney’s more radical agenda of completely revamping how the media operate in the U.S.”
“In the end, there is no real answer but to remove brick by brick the capitalist system itself, rebuilding the entire society on socialist principles,” McChesney wrote in a 2009 essay.”
So what is the true design of these regulations? As we reported previously, there appears to be a concerted effort by both the FCC and the FEC to eventually control content.
Phil Kerpen, president of the free-market group American Commitment, wrote an open letter to McChesney after the regulation was passed saying, “The unthinkable has become thinkable, and the free-market Internet – one of freedom’s greatest triumphs – is set to be reduced to a public utility, subject to pervasive economic regulation and, in turn, to content control.”
We are truly living in an Orwellian society where Newspeak is being forced upon us. Net NEUTRALITY? There is nothing neutral about government control

http://humanevents.com/2011/04/02/top-10-reasons-george-soros-is-dangerous/

 

[James T Kirk]

James you forget that the people of the far right hire undocumneted workers to keep thelr lawns mowed, houses cleaned and more importantly fruits and vegetables on the table. But heaven forbid that the undocumented get anything out of the deal. That is JUST WRONG!!!


(What usually happens when a liberal is faced with facts!)

That would presume there were facts discussed now wouldn't it?? OH!!! sorry I forgot that the Heritage Foundation has won many awards for their unbiased bi-partisan reporting of the facts what a joke dude!!!!!

You are missing my point... Of course the fat cats benefit from cheap labour from illegals. Why else would I be surprised that they are so excited to pay so much more for what they take for granted every day?

This guy who keeps quoting conservative talk show banter seems to have every possible stat on how much an illegal supposedly costs, but what about the countless millions saved daily by paying under the table for cheap labour? For a group that pushes trickle down economics as much as the far right does I find it entertaining that they completely ignore this point...