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Sticker Fees and Fuel Tax

Braap Wraps

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User fees are up for discussion again but at a reasonable amount this year. Also people are going to start to lobbing to remove funds that were added by the July fuel tax. Write your representative to keep the fuel tax money were it is and your opinion on the increase.



Wyoming snowmobilers want more money for trails; Liberty Group opposes use of fuel-tax money


Money from last summer's 10-cents-per-gallon fuel tax hike does more than fund the state’s highways.

Snowmobiles, off-road vehicles and boats also benefit from the taxes imposed on fuel in the state.

A provision in the legislation authorizing the tax calls for portions of the revenue to pay for dock repairs for boats and trail maintenance for snowmobiles and other outdoor recreational vehicles.

The provision was in the law before the Legislature hiked the tax from 14 cents to 24 cents per gallon as of July 1.

But critics of the legislation say lawmakers didn’t tout the bill as a way to repair public docks and trails.

“The fuel tax was sold to people as a way to create a long-term source of funding for roads,” said Maureen Bader, a staff member of the Wyoming Liberty Group, a conservative lobbyist and think tank. “This is an example of something that slipped through without the appropriate amount of attention being paid on it.”

Proponents of the law say the provision is justifiable.

“Those vehicles are paying the gas tax,” said Del McOmie, chief engineer for the Wyoming Department of Transportation, “so a portion of those funds go to them.”

There was nothing sneaky about the legislation, said Rep. Mike Madden, R-Buffalo, chairman of the House Revenue Committee, which co-sponsored the fuel tax legislation.

Snowmobilers and boaters lobbied lawmakers to keep the provision that channels money for repairs when the bill came up for debate during the 2013 session in Cheyenne.

“I remember their testimony clearly,” Madden said.

Advocates for outdoor recreational vehicles say the money from the fuel tax isn’t enough.

Snowmobilers are also turning to the Legislature to impose new fee increases.

They are pushing a bill that would hike the user registration by $10 for the next two years and the bump it up by another $5 after that.

That would raise the price to $35 for an in-state and non-resident snowmobile tag next year. For commercial snowmobilers the price would go to $105. The last $10 increase was in 2005.

Snowmobiling generates $175 million of consumer spending in the state each year, said Bert Miller, president of the Wyoming State Snowmobile Association.

Not maintaining the trails could deter people from planning a snowmobiling vacation in the state, he said.

“Forty-nine percent of that basis is people coming to Wyoming from out of state to snowmobile our trail system. We must be doing something right. If they don’t come we all lose money.”

The Big Horn Basin, Wind River Mountains, the Laramie Range and the Bridger-Teton National Forest are home to most of the state’s groomed trails, said Rep. Allen Jaggi, R-Lyman, a member of the House Travel, Recreation, Wildlife and Cultural Resources Committee.

Jaggi opposed the registration bill during a fall interim committee meeting because his constituents don’t have a lot of groomed trails in southwest Wyoming, he said.

“The people who ride on groomed trails will benefit, and the people who don’t will help pay for the people that do,” he said.

He also disliked the additional $5 increase after two years.

“Give them an inch and they take a mile,” he said.

Nobody wants to raise taxes or prices, said Sen. Paul Barnard, R-Evanston, and member of the Senate Travel, Recreation, Wildlife and Cultural Resources Committee.

“But it gets to be impossible to maintain without inflation adjustment,” he said. “We have some of the best trails in the nation. If we don’t maintain them business will falter.”

Barnard voted in favor of the fee-increase bill when the interim committee voted on it in the fall.

It’s a bill that needs to be debated on the floor in the Capitol, he said.

“I’d like to see $5 increase rather than $10,” he said. “I think they need it. It needs to come out in the open and everyone needs to speak.”

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Just wondering were all your money goes, SD doesn't charge out of non residents. Yet even with that, most club's in Eastern SD have a state furnished groomer, and The black hills always run 5 to seven groomers all paid for with the "expensive" in state reg. of $10 a year, I also know that they have been purchasing new equipment every year because they have to use the money in the snowmobile trust fund or lose it to the general fund. I know I don't know all the details however from afar it seems that maybe their might be a question in management, not in funding. We rode the Snowies over new years, seen only fresh groomed snow 1 morning the rest was average at best. Rode the Big horns 3 years ago for three days, stayed at Bear lodge and never saw a groomer. Ride the Black hills always see groomers running. It just seems that maybe the money for these programs is being spent on things other than trail grooming, as an Non resident All I care about is good signs, and good trails to get to the powder.
 

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I will have to get the numbers out and look, but if i remember right, close to 70% of the cost is grooming, the other is administrative, law enforcement, lot plowing, and what not... How many Miles of trails does SD have? Wyoming is well over 2000, some not groomed. Just curious?

As for the grooming over New years, most of the systems in the state are just getting going with grooming at that point.

As to the article it does not mention that the gas tax is nothing new when it comes to its snow trail distribution. The only part that is new there is we get a little more with the tax increase.
 

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Just wondering were all your money goes, SD doesn't charge out of non residents. Yet even with that, most club's in Eastern SD have a state furnished groomer, and The black hills always run 5 to seven groomers all paid for with the "expensive" in state reg. of $10 a year, I also know that they have been purchasing new equipment every year because they have to use the money in the snowmobile trust fund or lose it to the general fund. I know I don't know all the details however from afar it seems that maybe their might be a question in management, not in funding. We rode the Snowies over new years, seen only fresh groomed snow 1 morning the rest was average at best. Rode the Big horns 3 years ago for three days, stayed at Bear lodge and never saw a groomer. Ride the Black hills always see groomers running. It just seems that maybe the money for these programs is being spent on things other than trail grooming, as an Non resident All I care about is good signs, and good trails to get to the powder.

Here is a link to the S.D. State sight that explains their funding.
http://gfp.sd.gov/to-do/snowmobile/license.aspx

The main difference is that South Dakota trails get a 3% sales tax on all snowmobiles purchased and WY doesn't.
 

Braap Wraps

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Just wondering were all your money goes, SD doesn't charge out of non residents. Yet even with that, most club's in Eastern SD have a state furnished groomer, and The black hills always run 5 to seven groomers all paid for with the "expensive" in state reg. of $10 a year, I also know that they have been purchasing new equipment every year because they have to use the money in the snowmobile trust fund or lose it to the general fund. I know I don't know all the details however from afar it seems that maybe their might be a question in management, not in funding. We rode the Snowies over new years, seen only fresh groomed snow 1 morning the rest was average at best. Rode the Big horns 3 years ago for three days, stayed at Bear lodge and never saw a groomer. Ride the Black hills always see groomers running. It just seems that maybe the money for these programs is being spent on things other than trail grooming, as an Non resident All I care about is good signs, and good trails to get to the powder.

I would have a couple question. Like what is the average riding season in SD. I know that other mid west states like MN the average riding season is 21 days. Things like that make difference. I also know that some states allow the clubs to do the grooming and they get people to volunteer to do it for free because they have members that retired and need something to do. That is also a cost saving that we do not have in the Snowy range anyway.

I will have to get the numbers out and look, but if i remember right, close to 70% of the cost is grooming, the other is administrative, law enforcement, lot plowing, and what not... How many Miles of trails does SD have? Wyoming is well over 2000, some not groomed. Just curious?

As for the grooming over New years, most of the systems in the state are just getting going with grooming at that point.

As to the article it does not mention that the gas tax is nothing new when it comes to its snow trail distribution. The only part that is new there is we get a little more with the tax increase.

SD has 1455 miles of groomed trails. In the Black hills they have 355. That is the numbers that I could find anyway.
 
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