Polaris 800 900 PTO ENDS AND CRANKSHAFTS

torque master

Well put Dan
I like striaght up guys with NO bs!!:beer;You have my crank there now
for a torque master II

crankin

Us in the "know", "know" better. Indydan or nothing I tell my people....

Well put dan, I just rep'd you. One of these days I will be getting that wc build we talked about, I wouldn't go any other way than to have you build it

you know your really getting to them when they have to start making sh!t up about you.

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So true so true.

You'll be getting my engine sooon!

I'm looking for a pto end myself.

Do you make your own ends, or have them made from a shop?

alsled said:

I'm looking for a pto end myself.

Do you make your own ends, or have them made from a shop?

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So does anyone know where thes super drive ends come from and or who makes them?

alsled said:

So does anyone know where thes super drive ends come from and or who makes them?

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Must be a trade seceret.

Dan went to a bunch of expense, in both time and money, to have ends built. They are his creation, built by a couple of sub contractors doing the actual metal and hardening work.

I looked in to having some made and if Dan figured out how to have it done, at a reasonable price, and doesn't want to share that info I can understand. Polaris created a need, Dan stepped up, and he's making the money because of it.

I've got one of his bottomend on my 910... 1/2 season on it. If he's willing to give me the warranty I was willing to give him my money.

sled_guy

Dan,

You'll be seein' another engine here soon too.

Ok i have to ask because i have been wondering for a long time. What does the warranty cover? Is it just the pto end ? or is it the complete bottom end? if bearings go out on the mag end is it covered? or a rod bearing? I have some asking about it and not sure what to tell them. i have found out you can not trust the local builder.I have been told by some that it cover the complete bottom end no matter the cause, but i was thinking it was just the pto end/

it says here.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pola...03092856QQptZSnowmobileQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Ok got it i have not been there before, thanks for the link.After reading the warranty statement i see it only covers the pto end it self for the 3-5 year period the rest is only covered for 1 year..

Hardass...

You bring up great points regarding warranties... In the world we live in, warranties and their wording, with all the fine print, have become a tangled mess that often leaves the customer hanging.

People need to be cautious and ask questions or they only have themselves to blame.

People like you are an asset to this forum (sincerely) and help keep vendors/sellers on thier toes.

I just got off the phone with Dan [Indy Specialties] to ask him about this.

The warranty extends to the complete bottom end with the exception of the bearings and rods themselves. The entire crank, including the crank pins ARE covered by the 5 year warranty.

If a crank falure takes out the case... that is covered as well.

He puts this in writing and will re-word his ad on ebay to clarify that.

Dan is aware of problematic pin fit on worn out / used Polaris cranks which is caused, in his view, by design problems...

IndySpecialties:The reason for relocating the Lock ring bearing on the Polaris High torque 800 Motor ........ At Clutch engagment the moveable Sheave is hitting the belt and causing a slide hammer effect on the PTO - End, If the case fit (to the bearing) is not perfect the clutch is actually jerking on the PTO Rod pin -------- With the Lock ring bearing moved to the PTO - End of the case where it belongs there is NO more damage done to the PTO - End or Rod Pin.

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According to him, unless you have a moisture problem.. you will not have a problem with the rods and thier related bearings... If the crank/cases are taken care of .

IndySpecialties: We cannot control how people summerize or store the motors, So therefore, Rods and Main bearings are only as good as there owners.

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If you store your sled outdoors for extended peroids of time.. you might get condensation in your motor and this is where using good oil that does not carry moisture plays a big role.

Some of the synthetic oils are worse than others when it comes to storage and Dan recommends using the less expensive mineral based oils in his motors... Here are Dan's views on 2 stroke oils.
http://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92802

That is where Fogging an engine comes into play to keep them in top notch condition and protect your investment and riding experience!!

Dan also has a great track record of helping out people for free and also taking care of problems even when his stuff does not cause the problem.

Dan/Indy Specialties, IMO, is a rare business/person in todays world of ripoffs and I'd like to see more people like him out there!



Good luck in what ever you choose and ride em this season.

I've had Dan Take care of a few of my friends on their 800 Big Block engines as well as my own 900 RMK. I have no problem recommending his work to anyone.

Most of the time...when a crank shaft goes.. the cases are taken out of spec or, in some cases, ruined.. and this accellerates the falure of the second crank installed. Most people dont take the time to carefully inspect the cases for straigt, round and proper fitting bearings into the case and just bolt them back together.

Also the factory cranks can benefit from improvements in the oiling, case fit and bearing location... beyond just the big bearing option out there.

Indy Specialties bottom ends are the best option IMO... his warranty is a true FIVE YEAR warranty on the crank and he backs his stuff up as well.

Dan's setup is not just for the crank but for the complete bottom end, fully assembled with new bearings, seals and Re machined/Blueprinted cases. Definately a Plus IMO. You get back an assembled fully checked-out bottom end ready for your cylinders and is packaged in a foam injected shipping box (best I've ever seen) with shipping included.

IndySpecialties also offers a 800 "crate engine" with re-plated/honed cylinders, new factory polaris pistons and a BRAND NEW PRIMARY CLUTCH... fully assembled with the 5 year warranty on the bottom end for $2495 shipping included.

His warranty is transferrable if you sell the sled... the buyer would get peace of mind in knowing his motor is going to hold together.

Indys cranks are fully rebuildable... not welded together cranks.

www.indyspecialty.net

You will find one or two people on this forum "gunning" for IndySpecialties... but I dont believe that they were even customers of Dans.... nor do they actually have his stuff in their own sled and are speaking second or third hand rumors.

Dans 800 Big Block Torquemaster bottom ends include
5 Yr Warranty
Upgraded 33mm billet PTO end. (the stock size is 30 mm)
Fully ballanced Arctic Cat primary clutch (uses polaris springs and weights)
Full machining of the cases which most of the time are way out of spec or even bad
Ugraded bearings with lockgroove machined into the PTO side of case.
Cases are cross drilled for improved oiling (one of the reasons the cranks fail in the first place)

Using the cat clutch allows for a much smaller bolt to be used in retaining the primary which means that the crank has a smaller hole in it compared to the Polaris and is MUCH stronger for the crank. These clutches are pre shimmed and setup for your choice of belt.

Here is a pic of Indy's PTO end compared to a stock one. Stock on left Indy Specialties on the right.


Have a look at his info on the crank in his Ebay store.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Polaris-800-Crank-crankshaft_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em14Q2el1262QQhashZitem4a99833578QQitemZ320403092856QQptZSnowmobileQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

I have since been told that the warranty does cover the rod pins for the 3-5 year period as well. It is the best deal out there for sure. Thanks MH