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List of changes from 12 to 13

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In no real order here is a list of changes for the M8 sleds:

TCL:
Same thickness on both sides of TCL.
Added relief to radius of webbing.
Increased thickness of webbing.

Engine base plate is now 2 pieces, Plate is also thinner.

Exhaust side belly pan:
Increased exhaust resonator clearance.
Redesigned muffler outlet seal with less rivets and better seal contact.

Air boot Extension:
Longer boot to eliminate the need for a foam seal into the hood.
Also a longer seam to help strengthen.

Airbox seal:
Foam seal is removed for 2013 and the rubber seal is improved.

Oil tank filler neck is now shorter and more vertical. This allows for
better venting through the cap.

Cable tie added to keep oil line from getting pinched while installing the muffler.

Clearance on pipe heat shield for the duct work that brings cool air to the drive clutch and driven pulley.

Now has a hose on the fitting of the coolant filler neck that routes the overflowed fluid out of the engine compartment.

HCR and M8 Limited:
Light weight brake disk 0.9 lbs. lighter than standard disc.

New 1 piece design heat exchanger:. Ice scratchers will be required in hard pack conditions.

103 lb. drive clutch engagement spring rate, produces a smoother
belt engagement at 2800 rpm (p/n 0646-252)

All models that do not come with a larger tunnel storage bag,
comes with a belt storage bag.

On the bottom of the dash air intakes:
New FrogSkinz design for better adhesion. They are cut differently
in the corners to lay flatter and not wrinkle.

Tie rod location moved forward 0.625” for tighter turning radius.
Spindle machined to allow clearance for the sharper turn.
The option of choosing multiple tie rod locations has been omitted.

Ski stance changed to a narrower 38” stance.
HCR 800 Remains 42”

Steering range is 17.5% wider at the same degree of handlebar
throw. Steering effort is increased but still less than the old M.

No drive clutch fan on any model for 2013.

Tri-hub wheel Will be all plastic like the ProCross Models.

Track remains 3.0 Pitch. Lug Height Changes from 2.25” to 2.6”.
85 Duro on HCR Only.

Driven shaft is now shot peened to prevent from being fractured.

Increased control for the ID to OD of the bushings in the drive
clutch to keep them from moving.

Driven clutch movable Sheave bearing changed from a DU bearing to a Vespel Bearing.

Because of the heavy loads and high temperatures seen with
mountain riding and boondocking, a drive belt was developed to
better suit this riding style.

Spacer added to keep the drive belt from bottoming out in the driven
pulley.

New material for driven clutch rollers

Left Hand belly pan:
Pocket added for side panel to fit securely. Less snow ingestion and adds strength to the side panel to help against touching the drive clutch during aggressive riding.
Screen changed to a tighter grid to prevent snow ingestion through the air ducting.
A thumb screw and speed nut is now used to keep the side panel
from flexing and allowing snow in.
Added support to cooling duct, behind screen area and also to aid with a tighter fit when the left hand side panel is closed.

Clutch Alignment is now 1.450. Use alignment bar (p/n 0644-588)

New procedure during assembly of the driven shaft and locking collar.
 
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arctic2009

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great list Krom! Hope to see continual improvements as it gets closer to winter. It looks as if cat is stepping up and working on the problems, contrary to what 80% of everyone else was saying earlier this year.
 
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great list Krom! Hope to see continual improvements as it gets closer to winter. It looks as if cat is stepping up and working on the problems, contrary to what 80% of everyone else was saying earlier this year.
I agree, people should give cat a bit more credit for listening to their customers and actually developing their product accordingly. That is something that for example Polaris hasn´t done with their 800 CFI motor.
 
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Because of the heavy loads and high temperatures seen with
mountain riding and boondocking, a drive belt was developed to
better suit this riding style.

Explain belt drive? :face-icon-small-con

Happy to see updates :face-icon-small-coo
 

White Rad

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Changes for the M8 sleds DRIVETRAIN:

TCL:
Same thickness on both sides of TCL.
Added relief to radius of webbing.
Increased thickness of webbing.

Driven shaft is now shot peened to prevent from being fractured.

Increased control for the ID to OD of the bushings in the drive
clutch to keep them from moving.

Driven clutch movable Sheave bearing changed from a DU bearing to a Vespel Bearing.

Spacer added to keep the drive belt from bottoming out in the driven
pulley.

New material for driven clutch rollers

Clutch Alignment is now 1.450. Use alignment bar (p/n 0644-588)

New procedure during assembly of the driven shaft and locking collar.

Glad to see these drivetrain improvements. In a perfect world all 2012 owners would get a new jackshaft, both clutches, a new TCL, and have it all assembled aligned according to new procedure and specs...
 

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So out of that list which ones are going to be done by cat/letter and which ones should I get my dealer to do on my own?
 
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"Clutch Alignment is now 1.450. Use alignment bar (p/n 0644-588)"
Will guys on the 2012 cats be using this new alignment bar as well?

Daniel
 
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So out of that list which ones are going to be done by cat/letter and which ones should I get my dealer to do on my own?

I posted a thread with the list of what will be done on the service bulletin, and a thread with the part numbers for the clutch side panel parts, I would be sure to check your tcl for cracking, (have the dealer install the 13 version if you have any cracks)
Make sure all clutch bushings are checked for wear, or binding....

"Clutch Alignment is now 1.450. Use alignment bar (p/n 0644-588)"
Will guys on the 2012 cats be using this new alignment bar as well?

Daniel
the new offset should help everyone...
You may be able to remove enough shims to run the new alignment spec, or you may have to have the center post machined.
 

sledhead1

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I gave my dealer those numbers for the side panel stuff and he couldnt find them.:face-icon-small-dis
 

Latitude 62

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I don't like being a downer, but, of the list of changes from the 12 model to the 13 model, 12 owners will receive as part of their updates none of the changes. That is pathetic imo. Some of, if not all the changes are with regard to runnability, performance, and durability issues. Runnability and durability issues should definately be included in the updates at no cost to the owner. Performance is another thing all together and understandable if not included in the updates. The only runnability issue covered in the updates are the driven clutch rollers. Again, pathetic imo.
 

sledhead1

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Anybody have any luck getting the side panel stuff from their dealer. I have called a few around here and they have had no luck.
 
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1702-279 Duct, Air - Clutch
5706-531 Screen, Intake
2623-001 Nut, Push
1623-999 Screw, Thumb
1623-637 Clip, U-Nut
0637-379 DEEP SNOW KIT Reinforces the side panel and belly pan to reduce snow ingestion.
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I just checked on cattracker, all are available, none are on back order
 
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1702-279 Duct, Air - Clutch
5706-531 Screen, Intake
2623-001 Nut, Push
1623-999 Screw, Thumb
1623-637 Clip, U-Nut
0637-379 DEEP SNOW KIT Reinforces the side panel and belly pan to reduce snow ingestion.
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I just checked on cattracker, all are available, none are on back order


Great information in this thread.

So, I am not sure.. is this side panel part of the update and is free from your dealer or do you have to pay for it?

Thanks
 

RACINSTATION

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You have to pay for these updates. As far as I know Cat is not going to offer them to current owners at no charge.

If you need them, we have them in stock ready to ship.
 
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