SNEAK PEAK... ALL NEW 2012 TIMBERSLED MOUNTAIN TAMER SUSPENSION

hurry up with details! i wanna know wats going on with the new rear arm!

It looks like a coupled suspension with an adjuster in the middle, so pretty much like a KMOD (http://www.kmodsnowmobileparts.com/kmod_website_5-15-11_004.htm) with a different type of adjusting mechanism, but same concept.

Figures I just buy a timbersled this year and they already have me outdated LOL. Wonder what it will cost to upgrade to keep current?

wow...Timbersled sure don;t sit still...they are second to nobody and they are going to be around a long long time

I wonder if that adjuster setup adjust the ride height and the amount of transfer. That be such a nice upgrade from the shimmed setup. I like how there is gussets that was my only complaint of the previous setup.

The adjuster is for coupling, If you screwed the adjuster all the way out or up to the upper half of the rear arm then it will couple right away, which in turn uses the front and rear arm, so as the back comes up it pulls the front up with it to prevent wheelie's, add control, and get up on and stay on the snow better.
Its why the Kmod has been kickin as$ for years now and still will with the new raptors.

With the adjuster down it will let the back come up partially (tranfer) then couple and then pull on the front arm. I don't know if it adds more travel like the kmod does or not.

I got a chance to ride this suspension set up while it was still in the prototype stages (got out on a demo ride of the mtn horses with some of my GFs and since Allen didn't have enough bikes for all of us he brought his Pro along that he had this suspension on) for the heck of it I took a few spins on it and HOLY HECK!!! it works!!! and the adjustability of it is going to be SOOOO nice for me with a turbo that I want to take into SOOOO many different applications. I really need my machine to act differently for different things and this will allow me some quick adjustment with that! Super stoked about it and can't wait to do an upgrade to mine this fall and put some miles on it!!

Skadi said:

I got a chance to ride this suspension set up while it was still in the prototype stages (got out on a demo ride of the mtn horses with some of my GFs and since Allen didn't have enough bikes for all of us he brought his Pro along that he had this suspension on) for the heck of it I took a few spins on it and HOLY HECK!!! it works!!! and the adjustability of it is going to be SOOOO nice for me with a turbo that I want to take into SOOOO many different applications. I really need my machine to act differently for different things and this will allow me some quick adjustment with that! Super stoked about it and can't wait to do an upgrade to mine this fall and put some miles on it!!

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wow..your post is almost pornographic...lol..

m8magicandmystery said:

wow..your post is almost pornographic...lol..

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Funny you should mention that because your first post on this thread sounded kinda muffled......

Are you that in love with TS or is this an alter that tries boosting the public profile of a certain company?

I know I'm gonna get some red rep for this one but.......a little less subtle actions on your part(the 2 posts that are humorous at best, good rep, thanks, etc) If you want to add to TS's reputation as a company add your experiences, otherwise it looks like an alter trying way too hard to bring their company exposure.

It will be interesting to see if they made the rights changes (ie shocks & valving, geometry, strong), it looks like they may have, but I wouldn't spend big $$$ on something until I compared it.

WyoBoy1000 said:

It will be interesting to see if they made the rights changes (ie shocks & valving, geometry, strong), it looks like they may have, but I wouldn't spend big $$$ on something until I compared it.

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On that note, it looks promising. It's funny how streamlined K-Mod and Timber have become over the years. Each improving on the others work.
Another good year full of choices by the way things are ramping up this offseason!

Reeb said:

On that note, it looks promising. It's funny how streamlined K-Mod and Timber have become over the years. Each improving on the others work.
Another good year full of choices by the way things are ramping up this offseason!

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I guess the real question is does it work, I know the kmod does and havent been impressed with the older t-sled skids so all that really matters is if it works for the person riding it. But like you said its cool seeing the improvements year after year.

Reeb said:

Funny you should mention that because your first post on this thread sounded kinda muffled......

Are you that in love with TS or is this an alter that tries boosting the public profile of a certain company?

I know I'm gonna get some red rep for this one but.......a little less subtle actions on your part(the 2 posts that are humorous at best, good rep, thanks, etc) If you want to add to TS's reputation as a company add your experiences, otherwise it looks like an alter trying way too hard to bring their company exposure.

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ya im really in love with the timbersled products,i have their rear skid in my 07/141 and the install went excellant.i also have the fastlane 9inch bigwheel kit with it.
The support from timbersled is awesome in both emails and phone calls for setup if and when needed,and Justin/CodeRed is an awesome dealer that i purchased the Timbersled product from.L have many products from many manufactures on my sled,thousands of dollars in upgrades.

This skid i have put through some very heavy hits that it has survived that i know many other stock skids and others that would likely have failed.

Anyway..im not an alter,just a fella that has owned over twenty cats since 91 and several Polaris products before that.
I have been sledding for 44 years and all sleds have ended up being modified.

I have dealt with more aftermarket companies then you will likely do in your lifetime so i think i know a company like Timbersled is a stand up company in the sledding industry and i will not feel remorse at stating it in a public forum.

I do know that otherskid manufactures do use the methods that you find distasteful though,perhaps it is you that requires the mouthwash??


So if you think im an alter well that shows your intuition is misguided,which leads me to be far less interested in your thoughts on any issue as being remotely educated.

I do hope that you do not recieve any negative rep for your thoughtless thoughts,it is apparent that you are only filling your diaper and just require a few years of wearing pants...

Wow than wasn't so hard now was it?
save for the immature comments and mudslinging.

I do question though, this one line....

I do know that otherskid manufactures do use the methods that you find distasteful though,perhaps it is you that requires the mouthwash??

What exactly are you trying to say?
What I read it like was, I find "alter ego" advertising distasteful and need my mouth washed because of it?

And if you wish for me not to make assumptions, isn't it rude of you to think you know more than me because you have grey hair and I do not?
Sorry, that's not how things work around here. Call a spade a spade and if the other person doesn't like it, tough tits.
But I'd still bet a shiny nickel that I could match how many snowmobile aftermarket companies you've dealt with. I'm pretty confident in that.

Anyways.....
I don't need to "prove" my worth to you, those that know me, know that I've been around and made snowmobiling my passion, unnerved by comments such as yours.

A quick list of the mods on each of my sleds(plural) would show you that no stone goes unturned when it comes to my enthusiasm for sledding. quick count of the sleds I've ridden or owned since the early ninties(I can't say I owned the sleds I rode until I turned 12 and literally had to start paying back my dad until the sled was mine so I could sell it and work towards a new sled the following year.) Totals about 15 new sleds. Not including the used ones, or the old race sleds I have from the 70's. But there I go trying to prove something to you! See you almost had me pulled into your childish "diaper wearing" games! tsk tsk.


So, as I put my assumptions in my back pocket, I invite you to do the same and next time you want to boost the image of a company, give us your experience, goes a lot further than simple one liners that look like a 10 year old punched on a keyboard.

Cheers!

Cheers to you as well Reeb...enjoy your pablum in the morning...lol...

Poo Slinging Diaper Rash Elderly People....oops did I say that?

:face-icon-small-shoYep, try to turn the negative bickering(even though I started it) into a positive light and get met with more "diaper talk", I thought our elders had something to teach us? Oh boy....:face-icon-small-dis

So about that new Mountain Tamer.....

-adjustability looks to be improved in a MASSIVE way, having heard from K-Mod owners, this type of set-up made a world of difference from the K-Mod to last years TS offering.
Is TS simply leveling the playing field or does the Mtn Tamer contain something I'm not seeing from comparison pics I'm looking at?

-weight should be similar, little heavier?

-my biggest problem when weighing the options of a new skid was the durability of the Mtn. Tamer. I have a few friends with TS skids and seem to have an endless supply of TS rebuild or update kits for the skids. Can someone spell out in a chronological order(year by year) what generation skid is what, and which updates pertained to each?

-Neither can hit jumps with more than 10-15ft vert before bottoming out, and that's only if the skid is so stiff it will barely move going down the trail. And it trenches bad when it's set that stiff. When the skid is softened enough to have a really nice trail ride(one M8, one T-Nytro) neither sled can hold the front end down very well. The more powerful Nytro especially. Makes for a lot of fun while boondocking and play riding, but not so much when you start to make a few pulls up some of the steeper stuff.

-That's pretty much what kept me from going with a TS skid at this point. But if the adjustability is as quick as it looks and provides to be a stellar set-up rivaling the K-Mod skidframe........I might have to put it back on my radar.(I was fairly certain a EZ Ryde was where I was spending my money, but was wavering because of the K-Mod)

- I need to have a skid that likes to be jumped hard, driven down the trail 9-0, it needs to keep the "flickability" on my sled, and still have the "on hill" adjustability to keep the front end planted for the short(sometimes not so short) and steep pulls we have in the interior of BC.
I know that's a tall order for a skidframe, and partially why I own 3 "daily drivers" because they are each ment for different applications. (Hillclimbing, boondocking, jumping)

More info is always welcome. As are some comments from others that own either TS skids or the competitions.(if that doesn't offend the original poster)

I'd like to hear a side by side comparison with some values added in terms of the different conditions and how each skid handled.

Hay guys Allen Here… The skid has a lot more going on beside the infinite coupling control adjuster. That is just what is most visible. There will be tons of details and a new tech video about the design on our web site that will be put up this coming Wednesday 7/13/11.

The skid will offer every one of the things that Reeb has requested without the need to make radical adjustments. The skid is going to be super supple and will be one of the most bottom-out resistant mountain sled skids ever. One cool thing I might mention to add to the excitement is that the standard and most affordable shock package is going to be a coil-over EXIT-X0 shock from Zbroz Racing. This kit will sell for $1475 USD.

To clear up the history of the Mtn. Tamer suspension. They were first put on the market in 2007. The 07-08 skids are the same. The 09-10 skids are slightly different. There is a update kit available to update the mechanical differences between the two.

The new 2012 skid is completely different. There are no parts the same in this kit as the old kit. They will however mount to the same rail mounting locations and will bolt into the factory holes in the tunnel like before.