Simmons Gen III"s cut out

rmk2112 · Feb 9, 2011

Has anyone done the Carl's cutout on Gen III's?

I did it to my old PP's and loved it. I just put a set of Gen III's on and they are awesome for flotation as well as a huge improvement on the trail over the PP's. I'd highly recommend the Gen III's.

I did noticed a difference without the cut out though. While counter steering on a side hill, they seemed to want to "kick me out" of the groove more than the PP's. It was a noticeable difference from the cut out PP's. I'm wondering if its just from a different ski, the cut out, or both combined.

Any input on people who've cut out their Simmons Gen III's would be great.

christopher · Feb 9, 2011

If you decide to make the cuts on your's, PLEASE let me know what the results are!!

rmk2112 · Feb 11, 2011

WingNutRacing · Feb 14, 2011

hmm

I think 2XM3 did it..... And I think one of em broke?

rmk2112 · Mar 23, 2011

I cut them last night. Giving them a test ride on Sat.

harrysmith500 · Mar 23, 2011

Sweet. Hope it works well

christopher · Mar 23, 2011

Well, you have my attention.
By all means, REPORT BACK what you find.
That is no small alteration of the ski!!

newmy1 · Mar 24, 2011

So now they are Gen II's?

harrysmith500 · Mar 24, 2011

Gen II's are way wider than these bad boyz..

harrysmith500 · Apr 13, 2011

How did these work. ??

rmk2112 · Apr 14, 2011

Sorry about the late report guys, been really busy with work.

Skis performed great!
Trail performance showed no difference at all, they still tracked true with no darting whatsoever.

Off trail is where the Simmons Gen III's shine and with the cut out....even better.

Sled pulls over on its side a lot easier, especially on downhill turns.
I didn't notice any lack of flotation with the cut out...in 2 ft of powder they floated the front end effortlessly
Carving thru meadows of 2 ft powder was great.
Carving across a side hill is where the cut out really made itself noticeable.
It holds onto the hill a lot better...the cut out allows the outside edge to bite into the hill better. This was a very BIG noticeable difference with and then without the cut out. Before the cut out, it seemed to want to kick me out of the line I was on too easily whenever I crossed a trench or encountered bumps/humps in terrain. Change in direction while pulling a cross side hill was noticeably easier as well, a little more or less counter steer and the sled went right where I wanted it to go without any "washout" feeling.

Above testing was done in 2 ft of dry powder, over the course of the morning/afternoon, it warmed up and the snow got heavy. Other than snow conditions being different, the skis performed flawlessly in all conditions.
I think Val needs to sell them like this. With the cut, it's a perfect all around, any condition ski.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to PM me.
I am 100% glad I cut these skis. Performance has definitely been enhanced.

harrysmith500 · Apr 14, 2011

Awesome report. Thank you.

RidnHigh · Apr 14, 2011

what in the heck is the lil aluminum shark fin deal on the back??

akrevrider · Apr 14, 2011

Gen IIIs with cut outs

Have you riden them anymore and what tool did you use to cut them?

Looks like an awsome mod. Any pics of them installed?

Good job!

akrevrider

slash · Apr 14, 2011

RidnHigh said:
what in the heck is the lil aluminum shark fin deal on the back??

simmons answer to scratchers

rmk2112 · Apr 14, 2011

akrevrider said:
Have you riden them anymore and what tool did you use to cut them?

Looks like an awsome mod. Any pics of them installed?

Good job!

akrevrider

I used a jigsaw with a 18TPI blade, being careful to not dig into the edge of the outside skag rib (see pics in first post), then used a combo wood rasp to clean the edges (rounded rough/fine on on side of rasp, flat rough/fine on the other).

After I got straight, smooth, clean edges I used my torch along the edges to give it a smooth, finished look.

I also rode them in some extremely heavy "Cascade Concrete" snow (1.5 - 2 ft deep) ........same performance as above.

RidnHigh said:
what in the heck is the lil aluminum shark fin deal on the back??

They don't work very well on the Gen III's, they have such deep keels that the fin barely touches the snow on trail. I think they were primarily designed for the flat bottomed Gen I's.

christopher · Oct 29, 2011

This is today's Saturday project for me.
The skis are going under the knife!!

akrevrider · Oct 29, 2011

Please take a couple of before and after pics..

christopher · Oct 29, 2011

You should know me better than that.
I will document the whole process!

Just back from the tool store.
Getting started now.

akrevrider · Oct 29, 2011

Figured that you would post some pics. just wanted to see if you use a different pattern and process. Never hurts to see a mod done by a different set of hands & tools.

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